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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jacobs View Post
    Phana,

    Indeed a flatter trunk movement needs to be trained completely separate from your arm movements. A lot of times when someone is trying to flatten their trunk they end up whipping their arms to far across the chest causing either an 'underneath' move coming down or an extreme throw out of arms and club towards contact.

    Although in this video the left arm is taking a pretty favorable route and the issue is on the downswing as you are creating 'too far' of a left swing direction. Sequencing the body movements to create some more right side bend will help you have more of a 'right' swing direction and limit the 'pull / hooks' being created from too far left of a swing direction. Trying to put more force down the shaft will help as well as we worked on during our session. I wouldn't aim more an open set up!
    I came to the same conclusion after yanking a couple of drives to places I had never been before. I videoed Friday's practice and your points are right on target. Had a good round today and will get some of tomorrow's practice vids up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phana24JG View Post
    I came to the same conclusion after yanking a couple of drives to places I had never been before. I videoed Friday's practice and your points are right on target. Had a good round today and will get some of tomorrow's practice vids up.
    Phana,

    Glad you are putting it together! Post up some videos of the next practice session
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jacobs View Post
    Phana,

    Glad you are putting it together! Post up some videos of the next practice session
    Played Father's Day and would have bankrupted my son and son-in-law if I had collected. Then proceeded to play Monday and came apart. Minor errors combined with unwatered fairways and slow play had me unglued. I guess your Flightscope was quite accurate regarding the shaft on my Cleveland driver. On the 12th hole, after launching a very nice drive, the shaft broke on impact, and I could not hit a shot for the rest of the day.

    Anyhow, here is the swing before that round.







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    Impressive Improvements on these swings.... Headed in the right direction
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    Things are going reasonably well. Driver(s) have really improved, wedge game better, and putting is slowly coming around. My major hurdle is the iron game, very inconsistent.


    One thing I notice is that my hands are barely ahead of the ball at impact. Weather permitting I was going to try the ball toss drill and karate chop drill (Vol 3) and see if they provide what I am looknig for. Any other suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phana24JG View Post
    Things are going reasonably well. Driver(s) have really improved, wedge game better, and putting is slowly coming around. My major hurdle is the iron game, very inconsistent.


    One thing I notice is that my hands are barely ahead of the ball at impact. Weather permitting I was going to try the ball toss drill and karate chop drill (Vol 3) and see if they provide what I am looknig for. Any other suggestions?
    The ball, for a 7i, is positioned too far forwards in your stance at set up - almost under your left arm pit, where a lot of guys would play their driver from.

    Try replicating that set up position and then move the ball to the immediate rear of the club head; then play it from there and see how you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burner View Post
    The ball, for a 7i, is positioned too far forwards in your stance at set up - almost under your left arm pit, where a lot of guys would play their driver from.

    Try replicating that set up position and then move the ball to the immediate rear of the club head; then play it from there and see how you go.

    TY, Burner. Practiced and played yesterday and your post was dead on. Still having some trouble getting consistent iron distances, but it was 50% less than before and my accuracy was well above average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phana24JG View Post
    TY, Burner. Practiced and played yesterday and your post was dead on. Still having some trouble getting consistent iron distances, but it was 50% less than before and my accuracy was well above average.


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    OK, got the irons and wedge game going and now the damn driver decides to desert me. Played yesterday in my competitive league and while I did shoot a 74 (70.8 rating) it was only because I had five birds from stiffed short irons and wedges as well as solid putting (thanks Mike and Burner) and hit a couple of world class recovery shots. Heel, toe, push, pull, you name it I did it.

    Normally, I am afraid of mid-irons, but can at least get a drive somewhere out there 260+. I know it is hard to diagnose absent video, but the only thing that occurred to me was the possibility of reverting to a too high shoulder turn, which might be acceptable with a shorter club, but is trouble at 45". Any thoughts?
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    There is some Driver footage earlier in this thread.

    Looking at that, your down swing - 15 seconds to 19 seconds - and contrasting it with your back swing - the first 08 seconds - is very illuminating.

    If you can align your back swing - which is far too flat and dragged back in behind you, from my perspective - closer to your down swing then greater consistency and better results might be forthcoming.

    It might help to break your tendency to drag the club back in and behind you, if you place your golf bag, upright, about one yard to the right of you with the back of the bag in line with your heels.

    Best done in slo-mo till you get used to it.
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