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    While I realize that I am a few weeks away from elbow surgery and not really swinging a club I have been thinking about why my shots had gotten very inconsistant and mostly fat and powerless. I started to think about the left arm and the elbow injury I have that doesn't allow me to really extend my left arm without intense pain and how I was probably bendind it toward my head on the backswing to avoid pain and that this might have caused a small chopping action that caused fat shots with no real leverage for power.

    then again I could just be really out of it on pain meds.

    any input would be appreciated or at least entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trickyric View Post
    While I realize that I am a few weeks away from elbow surgery and not really swinging a club I have been thinking about why my shots had gotten very inconsistant and mostly fat and powerless. I started to think about the left arm and the elbow injury I have that doesn't allow me to really extend my left arm without intense pain and how I was probably bendind it toward my head on the backswing to avoid pain and that this might have caused a small chopping action that caused fat shots with no real leverage for power.

    then again I could just be really out of it on pain meds.

    any input would be appreciated or at least entertaining.

    Ric
    Ric,

    Above might have some merit... but the real cause of the inconsistent heavy and powerless shots was because of a club head dive well below the plane. The trackman {which never breaks by the way as support is included } measures the sweet spot movement to give the angle approaching contact, when it measures the lie angle of the club it is measuring the sweet spot so with a severe below plane move that sweet spot registers a very very flat lie angle and an approach angle well inside out. The sweet spot diving below the plane creates ground first hits or swings that avoid the ground and weakly slap at the ball. You may do well off the tee but off the ground it is very difficult to put pressure into the ball. To improve that strike, you need to keep on the track we worked on and exaggerate making swings where you create a divot that feels like it is going down the third base line
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    I will be back working on that path in late January.
    thanks alot MJ,
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    MJ,
    one more thought,
    is it a turn your torso back and then forward with the forward feeling the handle or grip going left with a higher right shoulder and hip so it turns around and to the left?(not out toward the ball though)
    I think I might be mixing up the right shoulder going down plane with rotation of torso going down instead of around.
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    I am not sure I explained it well though
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickyric View Post
    MJ,
    one more thought,
    is it a turn your torso back and then forward with the forward feeling the handle or grip going left with a higher right shoulder and hip so it turns around and to the left?(not out toward the ball though)
    I think I might be mixing up the right shoulder going down plane with rotation of torso going down instead of around.
    Ric

    I am not sure I explained it well though
    Ric,

    I wouldn't get wrapped up in which body part is moving when and where..... picture your swing being a big huge circular hoop {like one of those silly white circle trainers they had 10 yrs ago}

    Well, currently your big hoop is set and aimed at 2nd base {picture the fairway having a baseball diamond} all you want to do is shift the direction of that hoop to the short stop side with your body movements accommodating that geometry ... hope that helps your understanding
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    Mj,
    First I have one of those stupid white circle things and I haven't figured out what to do with it either. I was thinking about putting a tight sheet on it, turning it on it's side and using as a trapoline for squirells.
    Are you saying turn to the left and swing the handle to the left also?
    could you explain in a video format?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickyric View Post
    Mj,
    First I have one of those stupid white circle things and I haven't figured out what to do with it either. I was thinking about putting a tight sheet on it, turning it on it's side and using as a trapoline for squirells.
    Are you saying turn to the left and swing the handle to the left also?
    could you explain in a video format?
    thanks,
    Ric

    hey pro,
    that would be an incredible video...

    i got myself screwed up a few weeks ago trying to perfect what starts when and where... it just so happens that i have been working on the "big circular hoop" idea you mentioned above...

    great analogy ...
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    Will do, I have a bunch of tips in the hard drive that I am saving to put out during the winter. I am going to do my best to make this quick tip tomorrow

    I also have a golfing machine specific question to answer that I got through an email.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by trickyric View Post
    Mj,
    First I have one of those stupid white circle things and I haven't figured out what to do with it either. I was thinking about putting a tight sheet on it, turning it on it's side and using as a trapoline for squirells.
    Are you saying turn to the left and swing the handle to the left also?
    could you explain in a video format?
    thanks,
    Ric
    Below Plane Explosive Golf Show posting shortly
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