Swing Reviews

[Michael Jacobs]

Danny C... and Gary Read here are some thoughts for your swing improvements, let me know if you have any questions

[GaryRead]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate the time you have given!

At this point, I could ask a lot of questions about certain details, however I think it would do my swing and focus alot better to just work on the things you touched on, rather than get caught up in asking question after question that may be irrelevant to me and sway me off the right rack so to speak.

I will work on less hip rotation, and the thrusting, which I have already started to work on at my last practice session by having the feeling of swinging left AFTER impact, if anything, it really helped with contact / striking.

I will post an updated swing shortly,

Watch this space!

Cheers

[GaryRead]

Hi Mike,

I have a question that I was pondering about and wanted your opinion on.

I was thinking about this pelvic thrust move that you have been mentioning recently, and had noticed in my posted videos. In particular I was trying to understand what actually caused the thrust, or at least what caused it in my swing.

I have noticed that I quite often have an 'across the line' finish to my backswing, probably caused by over rotation and arm manipulation, and I reasoned that being across the line at the top could be the cause (after over rotating in the first place) of the pelvic thrust because: (correct me if I am wrong)

with a club in my hands stationary at the top of the backswing and a very across the line position, I feel the club head coming down away from me and in front of me over my head, and also I feel the shaft is out of line and to go to an extreme, with the butt end pointing way behind me if viewed DTL (if there was a laser on the butt end) instead of the polar opposite of a laser pointed way outside the ball in front of me, if I was very laid off. Now with this feeling of position an across the line shaft has given me, coming into impact, the only way I can rescue an inevitably poor shot and get the shaft back on line, is to raise the handle, and drop the club head down to re align the shaft - Hey presto - pelvic thrust galore! Pelvic thrust is the only way considering the heavy forces at play that will give me a chance of manipulating the club. Hands and arms are to weak at this point on the downswing.

Do you think this sounds reasonable? I am across the line more times than not, and I may just work on this in the hope it eliminates the pelvic thrust.

Its hard to explain it in words, much easier with a video

Thanks!

[Jay Schwarz]

Danny C... and Gary Read here are some thoughts for your swing improvements, let me know if you have any questions

In both swing analyses, you said to avoid hip thrust. Can you be more specific about what we want the hips to do? I know we want the hip to lead the sequence, but would like to know what to work towards. Thanks.

[Michael Jacobs]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate the time you have given!

At this point, I could ask a lot of questions about certain details, however I think it would do my swing and focus alot better to just work on the things you touched on, rather than get caught up in asking question after question that may be irrelevant to me and sway me off the right rack so to speak.

I will work on less hip rotation, and the thrusting, which I have already started to work on at my last practice session by having the feeling of swinging left AFTER impact, if anything, it really helped with contact / striking.

I will post an updated swing shortly,

Watch this space!

Cheers

Gary,

I would make the adjustments to the body pivot first and then the left swing direction will be much easier to achieve. The goal of the backswing to set up the 'lining up' of the club for impact. Granted, the most displacement of the body could increase energy but can compromise the precision of the club impacts. Precision club impact outweighs any concern

[Michael Jacobs]

Hi Mike,

I have a question that I was pondering about and wanted your opinion on.

I was thinking about this pelvic thrust move that you have been mentioning recently, and had noticed in my posted videos. In particular I was trying to understand what actually caused the thrust, or at least what caused it in my swing.

I have noticed that I quite often have an 'across the line' finish to my backswing, probably caused by over rotation and arm manipulation, and I reasoned that being across the line at the top could be the cause (after over rotating in the first place) of the pelvic thrust because: (correct me if I am wrong)

with a club in my hands stationary at the top of the backswing and a very across the line position, I feel the club head coming down away from me and in front of me over my head, and also I feel the shaft is out of line and to go to an extreme, with the butt end pointing way behind me if viewed DTL (if there was a laser on the butt end) instead of the polar opposite of a laser pointed way outside the ball in front of me, if I was very laid off. Now with this feeling of position an across the line shaft has given me, coming into impact, the only way I can rescue an inevitably poor shot and get the shaft back on line, is to raise the handle, and drop the club head down to re align the shaft - Hey presto - pelvic thrust galore! Pelvic thrust is the only way considering the heavy forces at play that will give me a chance of manipulating the club. Hands and arms are to weak at this point on the downswing.

Do you think this sounds reasonable? I am across the line more times than not, and I may just work on this in the hope it eliminates the pelvic thrust.

Its hard to explain it in words, much easier with a video

Thanks!

I think I understand what you are describing........ Any obscure movement of the club during the swing will require a pelvic thrust towards the ball to help the club head seek out the ball. The golfer is going to get the club head to the ball in some fashion and a last resort for the body is to thrust the pelvis.

ITS A KILLER but the problem can be corrected by earlier movements of the club and when the corrections are made the Pelvic thrust becomes obsolete

[Michael Jacobs]

In both swing analyses, you said to avoid hip thrust. Can you be more specific about what we want the hips to do? I know we want the hip to lead the sequence, but would like to know what to work towards. Thanks.

Movements in the lower & upper body eventually culminate into some form of energy into the golf club. How much of the energy gets passed through is a matter of the 'Efficiency" of the golfer.

I would see pelvic movement as a simultaneous 3 part movement on the downswing.

Pelvis Moving - 1. Sideways 2. Moving backwards / stabilizing to avoid forward thrust 3. Rotating Open

The amounts of these movements depends completely on the golfer at hand.

Let me know what other clarifications you may need!

[Jay Schwarz]

I guess my confusion is what the correct sequence should feel like. Last Saturday, I was thinking about your new video post on low point. It helped so much and I finally felt like I understood how to get to impact. Previously, I got into the slot and then would have to do something with the shoulders to square the club face. I never considered how letting the hands go up as the club head went down was the key movement.

I shot my best round in the last year. But on Sunday, it all fizzled. I felt tired and seemed to be doing movements with the body to try to generate some power.

So, from the top, should the thought be to lower the right shoulder and push the left hip toward the target, holding the upper body back to have something left to try to snap the chain?

Am I making any sense?

[Michael Jacobs]

I guess my confusion is what the correct sequence should feel like. Last Saturday, I was thinking about your new video post on low point. It helped so much and I finally felt like I understood how to get to impact. Previously, I got into the slot and then would have to do something with the shoulders to square the club face. I never considered how letting the hands go up as the club head went down was the key movement.

I shot my best round in the last year. But on Sunday, it all fizzled. I felt tired and seemed to be doing movements with the body to try to generate some power.

So, from the top, should the thought be to lower the right shoulder and push the left hip toward the target, holding the upper body back to have something left to try to snap the chain?

Am I making any sense?

Yes you are making a lot of sense Jay... I just posted up a response to all the questions from the Low Point Impact Phase show.. I think it will answer a lot of your questions you can get to it here

http://www.nygolfworld.com/forum/f11...64/index3.html

After viewing, let me know what questions still may linger