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    MJ,
    I was here reading a radar system article (TM) and it describe spin loft as the angle between the path of the sweet spot and the normal to the club face angle/direction.

    So would the optimal thing to do with say a driver or all clubs for that matter would be to reduce spin loft?

    Get the face and the path as closer to the same direction as possible with a shallower AOA?

    So would reduce spin loft angle give you more distance with a given club head speed and how do you achieve reduce spin loft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASWING View Post
    MJ,
    I was here reading a radar system article (TM) and it describe spin loft as the angle between the path of the sweet spot and the normal to the club face angle/direction.

    So would the optimal thing to do with say a driver or all clubs for that matter would be to reduce spin loft?

    Get the face and the path as closer to the same direction as possible with a shallower AOA?

    So would reduce spin loft angle give you more distance with a given club head speed and how do you achieve reduce spin loft?

    V/R
    RA
    Ra,

    Now you are talking about some real stuff

    Spin Loft is a very important component, the 'RELEASE' was designed improve spin loft conditions by smoothing out the angle of attack in conjunction with its relationship to the 'normal' club face.

    The ways to achieve better spin loft numbers are pretty much this entire website and instructional curriculum

    One little tip for improving is to 'monitor the cutting edge of the club'
    Michael Jacobs
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    MJ,
    The cutting edge moving in a more shallow angle of attack less dig? So would right side bend/ Less shaft lean towards the target and going more normal/ ball more forward in the stance/ lining the club up for impact? More upper torso not moving toward the target side? Just some ideas ive been thinking about as I read the published papers and info from the site. I just dont really know how to do it...

    Table top drill/ also I worked on ensure my left shoulder gets as far away from the ball that I can it has help with the driver on TM my landing angle has shallowed out and some spin has been reduced. However it seems that I havent been able to match the apex of the shots through out the bag with the irons... TM had my club path 2.3 degrees to the right of my target but the AoA was -3.4. So my Launch angle with the irons was low.

    So just teaching myself sounds like I had to mch shaft lean and or the ball was back but my miss with my irons high loft irons is left of the target face left path right I guess.... Am I even in the ball park ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RASWING View Post
    MJ,
    The cutting edge moving in a more shallow angle of attack less dig? So would right side bend/ Less shaft lean towards the target and going more normal/ ball more forward in the stance/ lining the club up for impact? More upper torso not moving toward the target side? Just some ideas ive been thinking about as I read the published papers and info from the site. I just dont really know how to do it...

    Table top drill/ also I worked on ensure my left shoulder gets as far away from the ball that I can it has help with the driver on TM my landing angle has shallowed out and some spin has been reduced. However it seems that I havent been able to match the apex of the shots through out the bag with the irons... TM had my club path 2.3 degrees to the right of my target but the AoA was -3.4. So my Launch angle with the irons was low.

    So just teaching myself sounds like I had to mch shaft lean and or the ball was back but my miss with my irons high loft irons is left of the target face left path right I guess.... Am I even in the ball park ?
    RA,
    I will run through all of your questions:
    The cutting edge moving in a more shallow angle of attack less dig?
    For sure YES!

    So would right side bend/ Less shaft lean towards the target and going more normal/ ball more forward in the stance/ lining the club up for impact?

    Sounds like logical assumptions


    More upper torso not moving toward the target side?

    I would say for many people that would be a very good idea although as always it is subject dependent. The further back the sternum is the sooner the hand path will have an opportunity to bottom out earlier.

    However it seems that I havent been able to match the apex of the shots through out the bag with the irons... TM had my club path 2.3 degrees to the right of my target but the AoA was -3.4. So my Launch angle with the irons was low.

    Have you worked on the dynamic loft? trying to get the 'Normal' to the club face more up and 'over top the target' so to speak

    I think you are in the ball park, I would work on the club face and the path
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    MJ,


    Thanks but I don’t know how to do it... Whats the best ways to work on face and path??.

    Get the face more over/above the target when I try that I hit the biggest left to right shots from where I intend to send the ball.... face open to the path and MJ I've never had problems squaring the face. I will keep working at it

    Also like before on another thread I get the best distance with the driver when I swing left get the face a bit less left and hit a straight to slight cut that carry’s a few yards less than my optimized for carry swing.

    But the swing left pull shot on TM carrys aand runs and is a longer tee shot. But I dont know where it will go all the time ... Now my optimize hit up tee it high ball looks better but get zero roll ...landing angle may be way to high and spin numbers. But I hit the center to higher center club face shots when I swing left for the what looks like the pull / cut or i mess up and get the face to match the path and it a straight pull.

    I really want to get the cut angle down to my spin loft but this has been a challenging undertaking....

    Then when I try to line up my irons better the height and spin are great but I have more misses then when I swing left and hit what looks like a cut shot. But when I line up the club better i get better TM numbers but the distance is less... I’m so confused...lol ....

    MJ, Thanks for everything brother.....
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