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    Office Discussion:

    Here are some of my thoughts on:
    'What can the everyday golfer take from the release'

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    Thanks for sharing Mike.

    What about values for rotation of the left forearm through the release phase (I think it's called ulner deviation)

    Do you teach students to actively rotate the left forearm through the release phase these days? Or does the flexion/extension create the neccessary squaring of the club. In other words the forearm rotation is more 'reactionary' rather than a active concious move.

    In trying to get the club up the left arm for long periods and maybe even have an arched left wrist at impact it is very very hard to rotate th left forearm and square the face. If you do manage it the Trackman numbers are pretty horrendous don't you think?
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    Mike,

    I worked on this very thing the other day with a student and it was ridiculous how fast they caught on to it. In my experience from the past most students either struggled with the flat left wrist or gave up trying.
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    Mike:

    Great Video. The concept and how your present “Swing Tips Every Golfer Must Forget” is a masterstoke.

    I think your method of comparing and contrasting the methods is VERY essential.

    Perhaps a beginner golfer who has never swung a club could/should be taught the new method from the get go (as long as they don’t look at other sources which could be confusing to them).

    But since the majority of golfer probably have had/seen some instruction, it is important to show why the ideas are a better way. The compare/contrast method helps the golfer clear out and sort though a lot of erroneous ideas and then correctly place the focus on the new concepts.

    In addition, I think its import to explain how these ideas were ascertained (which you do), so that it can be even more easily understandable to the golfer.

    Indeed, these ideas helped me significantly.

    Ed

    P.S. You seem to have been really busy. Indeed you have a lot on your plate. But remember there is a saying that goes “enjoy what you do and you’ll never work another day in your life”. I hope you have achieved this.
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    Another great job, Mike.

    BTW, that is THE coolest golf club I've ever seen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgranato View Post
    Another great job, Mike.

    BTW, that is THE coolest golf club I've ever seen!
    yeah

    Mike needs a bigger office and a bigger table top
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    But since the majority of golfer probably have had/seen some instruction, it is important to show why the ideas are a better way. The compare/contrast method helps the golfer clear out and sort though a lot of erroneous ideas and then correctly place the focus on the new concepts.
    Rogue,

    I agree that this is sometimes the case but I think from the simple fact that the student is able to change a movement on the first or second attempt is a big deal. Once this process begins improvement speeds up and confidence will increase also.

    Sorry, a bit off the specific video topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twitch127 View Post
    Thanks for sharing Mike.

    What about values for rotation of the left forearm through the release phase (I think it's called ulner deviation)

    Do you teach students to actively rotate the left forearm through the release phase these days? Or does the flexion/extension create the neccessary squaring of the club. In other words the forearm rotation is more 'reactionary' rather than a active concious move.

    In trying to get the club up the left arm for long periods and maybe even have an arched left wrist at impact it is very very hard to rotate th left forearm and square the face. If you do manage it the Trackman numbers are pretty horrendous don't you think?
    Twitch,

    Such a great question, so important to discuss this topic. The answer is a little more than can be typed so I will make an office answer in the next few minutes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Bryda View Post
    Mike,

    I worked on this very thing the other day with a student and it was ridiculous how fast they caught on to it. In my experience from the past most students either struggled with the flat left wrist or gave up trying.
    It is unbelievable how quickly the golfer improves when they leave the idea of a Mandatory Flat Wrist. Not only do they feeling of being 'free' they have much smoother body movements
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue View Post
    Mike:

    Great Video. The concept and how your present “Swing Tips Every Golfer Must Forget” is a masterstoke.

    I think your method of comparing and contrasting the methods is VERY essential.

    Perhaps a beginner golfer who has never swung a club could/should be taught the new method from the get go (as long as they don’t look at other sources which could be confusing to them).

    But since the majority of golfer probably have had/seen some instruction, it is important to show why the ideas are a better way. The compare/contrast method helps the golfer clear out and sort though a lot of erroneous ideas and then correctly place the focus on the new concepts.

    In addition, I think its import to explain how these ideas were ascertained (which you do), so that it can be even more easily understandable to the golfer.

    Indeed, these ideas helped me significantly.

    Ed

    P.S. You seem to have been really busy. Indeed you have a lot on your plate. But remember there is a saying that goes “enjoy what you do and you’ll never work another day in your life”. I hope you have achieved this.

    Ed,

    Thanks for a great post and I try to enjoy every minute. Most of my friends and competitors are just teaching pros, but I on the other hand am still the traditional Country Club Head Professional. Aside from my golf school, I have all of the responsibilities of being a Head Professional.

    My plan is to stay in that role for as long as a country club will have me, I feel that a traditional golf professional should play a role in the country club side and in their instruction.

    Hope you are well and you have a great holiday
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