Pivot

[jlgenson]

MJ

I am really trying to work on my pivot on the back swing. I know you like "flat". When I think flat I wrap the club too much around me. I also know you say the arms and turn need to be trained separately.

3 part question:
a. How to do get enough coil to produce power in the the downswing?
b. Should the top and bottom resist one another in the backswing?
c. It seems like when I think "step on the right foot" I sway really bad - how centralized should the backswing be?

When I think big hip turn I sway way off the ball causing me to bottom out very eary bec my low point is manipulated.

Thanks.

[Michael Jacobs]

Originally Posted by jlgenson

MJ

I am really trying to work on my pivot on the back swing. I know you like "flat". When I think flat I wrap the club too much around me. I also know you say the arms and turn need to be trained separately.

3 part question:
a. How to do get enough coil to produce power in the the downswing?
b. Should the top and bottom resist one another in the backswing?
c. It seems like when I think "step on the right foot" I sway really bad - how centralized should the backswing be?

When I think big hip turn I sway way off the ball causing me to bottom out very eary bec my low point is manipulated.

Thanks.

Jon,

I like a flatter trunk move for you and for those that have a tendency to steepen the right side and end up with a left lean on the backswing. There are times when I am helping someone that I have to do the opposite and have to steepen their trunk movement. So there is no one way, but a conventional trunk movement is always a good place to start.

Question #1

Coil- In my opinion a horrible term for golfers. In great players the Trunk and Pelvis separation is maximized on the downswing with some added stretch, trying to stretch it and maximize it on the backswing only is a disaster that will mostly lead to having to 'jack up' the right side and speed up the trunk as the only resort. So in a round about way, the 'coil' I am describing is a stretch or separation of trunk and pelvis and it should be maximized on the start down.

Question #2

Should the bottom and top resist each other?

The trunk moves beyond the pelvis on the backswing but no negative torquing of the body should be required

Question #3

How centralized should the backswing be?

Jon, I am assuming you are referring to the head and neck in this instance??

The tour average on 'HEAD SWAY' on the Backswing is

Statistics of Tour Averages Measured In Inches either Away or Towards the Target:

Address: 0

Half Way Back - Tour Average Head Sway is 1-3 Inches Away from Target

Top of Backswing - Tour Average Head Sway is 1-5 Inches Away from Target

So, should a golfer keep their head centered in a Tripod.... tour average suggest not... some may come close. I wouldn't keep it centered


Now for your question on hip turn.. the pelvis turn on most good players is about half of the trunk rotation... so I wouldn't spend too much time wrapping your hips around. Tour Average on hip rotation on the backswing top is:

approx. 46 Degrees Closed


Hope that helps you Jon

[jlgenson]

MJ -

Thank you for that response. I will study in and try to apply.