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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Jacobs View Post
    Well01,

    The best way to think of it is as horizontal conditions of the back of the left hand and the left forearm. If put your left hand out in front of you and have the back of the left hand and the forearm in a straight line - - creates a perfectly flat surface of the back of hand and the forearm. Obviously, this a flat left wrist. If you make a horizontal movement of the back of the left hand forward - the back of the hand is now forward of the forearm... this would be a bent left wrist. If you then make a horizontal movement where the back of the left hand trails the forearm, this would be an arched wrist. At the top of the backstroke, the back of the left hand and the forearm can be in in any one of these conditions. There a different degrees of each, someone can have a slightly bent left wrist at the top or they can have a severely bent wrist. Now perfectly flat or a little leeway each way? Obviously there is a degree or two of leeway... this is what makes the tac tic such a good training aid, it helps you train. Also you can stick a credit card in your glove to see if you can keep the back of the hand and the forearm aligned.
    Hope that helps
    how can it be said that a flat left wrist is an imperative, when there are great pro players who are flippers
     

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    Joe C,

    I don't know if I would classify a lot of great players as flippers. Granted many players do not keep the club up the left arm as some TGM enthusiasts try to do. It is a mechanical advantage to have the left wrist flat at contact and ball separation from club face. Variations in the backswing and sustaining a flat left wrist from follow through to finish would NOT be categorized as a true imperative and I would agree with you there
    Michael Jacobs
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    Would you be willing to share your ideas on the "Modern day" component list?
     

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    Well,

    I have never sat down and drawn up a concise list. However some that would be very helpful for golfers:
    Here are some ideas
    Back

    Face / Head

    Club Sole {Shaft Lean}

    Just some ideas
    Michael Jacobs
    PGA TEACHER OF THE YEAR
    2012 Metropolitan Section
     

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    MJ,
    What's the proper power ACC sequence ?

    What's the most powerful ACC sequence?

    Whats the best ACC sequence short game High soft shots , low runners etc. in the LAB working on things?

    R/
    RA
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASWING View Post
    MJ,
    What's the proper power ACC sequence ?

    What's the most powerful ACC sequence?

    Whats the best ACC sequence short game High soft shots , low runners etc. in the LAB working on things?

    R/
    RA

    RA,

    Are you looking for answers and interpretations directly from the text of the golfing machine or are you looking for a modernized 3D science based answer?
    Michael Jacobs
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    MJ,
    I would like th new 3D based answer, on Power ACC Sequence.

    Next question how should I work on club face control? What I want is whats in the book as Angled hinging I have always been able to turn the club face over ( in the book HH) but I know there is no true HH; I at times prepare the face to turn close way to soon. What i have been doing is little chip shots in the lab ( trying to see and feel the face doing what i call (nothing) through the impact interval. At half speed i hit nice D- plane controlled shots what looks like to me as if they would be straight away flight baby fades. I know that a straight shot should go vertical up the flag then fall back down on the flag excluding axis tilt and cross wind. FAce control seems to me as it should be the new 1 # imperative and true path control the new 2# imperative in the 3D world of playing golf.

    Thanks
    V/R
    RA
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RASWING View Post
    MJ,
    I would like th new 3D based answer, on Power ACC Sequence.

    Next question how should I work on club face control? What I want is whats in the book as Angled hinging I have always been able to turn the club face over ( in the book HH) but I know there is no true HH; I at times prepare the face to turn close way to soon. What i have been doing is little chip shots in the lab ( trying to see and feel the face doing what i call (nothing) through the impact interval. At half speed i hit nice D- plane controlled shots what looks like to me as if they would be straight away flight baby fades. I know that a straight shot should go vertical up the flag then fall back down on the flag excluding axis tilt and cross wind. FAce control seems to me as it should be the new 1 # imperative and true path control the new 2# imperative in the 3D world of playing golf.

    Thanks
    V/R
    RA
    RA,

    When you are looking at downswing it is far superior to understand the 'Kinematic Sequence' {also known as Kinetic Chain}

    The information is extensive so I will leave the research to you and will steer you in the right direction.....

    I would start by looking at information from AMM 3 D and Phil Cheatham.

    As for club face control....

    Every golfer does some form of angled hinging, to help you monitor the club face a lie angle tool or the teeriffic video tip from last years tips is a good place to begin. The ball flight never lies, I would make sure the contact is center face by checking where the contact is. Ball flight can be mis leading if center face contact is absent.

    Hope that helps your research...
    Michael Jacobs
    PGA TEACHER OF THE YEAR
    2012 Metropolitan Section
     

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    MJ,
    Thanks. I found a power generator thread from BManz speaking on the torques and now I under stand them better; Now i can work on the (KinCh).

    I will try some positive torque swings ( active straightening of the right arm when the club is vertical to the ground for the last time with the pivot and with out..... also active cocking of the left wrist with pivot i get bigger depper divots when i do that so the left wrist must be the down in the swing the right arm straightening must be the out and the left arm blast off must be the forward all with the correct pivot.... am i getting close to understanding it better? )

    So what's the ball flight for off center hits in relationship to swing path?


    In to out path with a toe hit. Gear effect ( ball flight DRAW or hook ) ?
    In to out path with a heel hit . Gear effect ball flight slice or push) ?
    in to out path with center strike . Straight shot with a baby draw if the face was open enough to the path?

    and the opposite for out to in paths ?


    I will hit the range today and and look at these shots with the ( driver and a 6 iron and a wedge )

    Thanks
    This is so much fun.
     

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    MJ,
    I know this is a trigger type to start the down swing in my understanding. For a right handed player would this trigger start with the right shoulder action a slight move down while you are on the turned shoulder plane and you want to shallow out your attack angle, would this create secondary axis tilt?

    When I try it it makes the club go out to the right to much instead of down the plane it goes cross the plane line out to the right and with good impact alignments it send the ball start path right then goes father right because the path it to right and the face is open at separation.

    Whats the best way to hit a D plane fade shot with the Irons a ball that starts left then turns back to the flag?

    - address;10-9-A mid body hands, HSP : left of the target club face left of the target. 10-5-B with a modified club face that would be classified closed to the plane line?

    - Backswing; Turned shoulder plane back swing with a standard foot action with a standard pivot. 10-6-b and 10-12-A

    - Downswing Just return it backdown on that same turned shoulder plane angle and trace a straight plane line with the right attack angle and POW A Fade. ?


    R/
    RA
     

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