Amounts of Rear Wrist Extension Through DS?

[spktho]

Michael, I enjoy the information you are sharing through the forum and I'm sure it is helping many peoples' games. I have been working on getting a solid golf swing since coming back from knee surgery and am doing pretty well with it thanks to your site and Brian's.

One thing that I have been struggling with on the ideas of the release and coupling point is being able to consistently square the club face. I have worked a lot with replacing the left arm and it has helped some.

I have been looking at a lot of tour players' swings and am noticing that most, if not all, have varying degrees of rear wrist extension during the downswing--most have some extension at the top and increase it until about club last parallel when the wrist starts to flex for releasing the club. Have you come across any studies showing the amounts in tour players compared to others, like the Nesbit comparisons in Work and Power? Also, does the amount of rear wrist extension play a role in aiding the squaring of the club face?(It sure seems to, especially when coupled with replacing the left arm).

[Michael Jacobs]

Michael, I enjoy the information you are sharing through the forum and I'm sure it is helping many peoples' games. I have been working on getting a solid golf swing since coming back from knee surgery and am doing pretty well with it thanks to your site and Brian's.

One thing that I have been struggling with on the ideas of the release and coupling point is being able to consistently square the club face. I have worked a lot with replacing the left arm and it has helped some.

I have been looking at a lot of tour players' swings and am noticing that most, if not all, have varying degrees of rear wrist extension during the downswing--most have some extension at the top and increase it until about club last parallel when the wrist starts to flex for releasing the club. Have you come across any studies showing the amounts in tour players compared to others, like the Nesbit comparisons in Work and Power? Also, does the amount of rear wrist extension play a role in aiding the squaring of the club face?(It sure seems to, especially when coupled with replacing the left arm).

Spktho,

Great post, you are on the right track. And yes I do have all of that information... have you been viewing the office responses I have been posting up?? A lot of that info has been included in those tips but they are scattered about. I would take a quick review of those and let me know what questions still exist

The right wrist flexion does aid in the following:
Squaring face
Smoothing Angle of Attack
Path Control

I have accumulated and purchased one of the largest collections of data from tour players to duffers so we do have any and all information at our finger tips. Hope that helps, review some office discussions and let me know how I can help you further

[spktho]

Thanks Michael. I watched "The release, Part 2" video you did after Christmas--I was out of town and missed it--and I think that cleared up a lot. I think I need to work on more of the tangential to start the downswing, but am just so used to tugging. I look just like you describe with releasing too early because with the tangential move it makes the swing feel real slow to me so I tug.

I think I made some progress today. I was working on the above with teed up 7 irons moved a little more forward than normal as well as not getting left too soon so I exaggerated the right foot down longer than normal. I had to really scale back to about 70% to not tug the handle and I think I could still use some more tangential movement to start the hands. Here's a few swings, I hope it's ok to post some swings. If not, feel free to pull it down. Thanks again for all your help.

[Michael Jacobs]

Spktho,

You are always welcome to put swings up, that is what I made this website for.

I have some suggestions for you, before I post them up do you have the down the line view of some of your swings????

[spktho]

Thanks Michael, I appreciate any suggestions you could give. Here is from yesterday trying to work more on the tangential transition, but I seemed to lower my hands and have a flatter back swing. I did pull this ball about 15 yards left of my target, but it stayed straight, if that matters at all. Overall it felt like a good motion, but I feel I tend to get left too much with the whole body causing the pivot to stall and making "going normal" difficult.



Thanks again,

Steve

[Matt Bryda]

Excatly what is the tangental swing. Looked it up and it was about a straight line on a curve???????????????????????????????

Joe,

I wouldn't look at it as a tangential swing.

Tangential is a term that Dr. Nesbit used to describe one of the
force components put on the club during the swing.

[spktho]

Joe, pretty much what Matt said. The feel for me is to not make the hands go to the ball to start the downswing. I try to just let them "hang out" a bit and feel like moving them away from the target/target line--which feel to me to be behind me. I think that is the "tangential" part.

[Matt Bryda]

spktho,

Have you tried maintaining your backswing shoulder turn longer into delivery.

Have you seen Swing Tips every golfer should forget?

[spktho]

spktho,

Have you tried maintaining your backswing shoulder turn longer into delivery.

Have you seen Swing Tips every golfer should forget?

Yes, I am trying to hold the shoulder turn longer. Do you think I should even longer?

Yes I have watched it a couple times. Is there something(s) I should take another look at?

Thanks.

[Matt Bryda]

Yes, I am trying to hold the shoulder turn longer. Do you think I should even longer?

Yes I have watched it a couple times. Is there something(s) I should take another look at?

Thanks.

I think the left arm push back on the lead shoulder could be reduced.

Did any light bulbs go off for you when Mike went covered some left arm stats?

Don't want to give the farm away about the video you know.