Explosive Golf Show Season #4

[trickyric]

This is what I was telling you was my epiphany back in late January. I was on the range at Eagle trace having contact issues so I stood up and lifted the club over my right shoulder by lifting my right arm and bending at the elbow 90 degree's,I did that a few times to figure out what my up move should feel like. I then turned back with the club pointed straight out from about mid body to feel my rotation and then put them together and wallah!
I added the "ring the bell" feel to make sure the arms were going up then down and not dropping under which was a feeling that I think really helped with early axis tilt.
BTW,
you told me you liked the idea when I shared it.

Great minds baby!
Ric

P.S.
I think this might be my new favorite video for beginners

[glcoach]

I really got a lot out of this video. Very well done. Helped me understand some things I had been working on.

[RASWING]

MJ,
Today I played a club scramble (Dental Corps) event at the club... Me and two buddys our 4th didn’t show up ... Actually we shot a 54, birdied every hole I never done that before with these guys and it was fun and we lost a group shot a 53 the eagled the Par 5 3rd hole... I hit some of the best iron shots I have ever... Driver was good. But the irons where crazy good best one was a slightly uphill par 3 (197) yards.... I hit a 4 iron to 6 feet and it was high and straight! Thanks MJ and Bmanz..

My question I hit some really good iron shots thinking about all the stuff we talked about and this video has been Heaven sent.... it has just made my irons sizzle off the face

But since the video the amount of down (AOA)that I use to have is reducing and the amount of draw that I use to have isn’t as much and now I am hit a ball with less curvature as we discuss in another post....

So does lining the shaft up for impact and removing some of the forward lean make the path and face match up more?

So less forward lean more of a squared face at contact and separation.. Less path and face divergence equals straight flying golf shots....?

With out a FS or TM I don’t know, but what my eyes are telling me is; that it’s getting better less curve to the naked eye. Since I have been trying to line the club up for contact and close the gap of the club head and the ball right away I have hit the center of the club face more and have been launching the irons high in the air…..

[Twitch127]

Mike,

Do you really think that "most" amateur players get anywhere near delaying lag. All they do is throw the club away because they have an ineffective kinematic sequence. Surely the centre of gravity of the club should stay as close to the centre of gravity of the golfer (close to between the shoulder baldes) for as long as possible. That is how you create higher inertia and high acceleration. Show me a picture of a long hitter with the shaft a big distance from his right shoulder during the transition and early downswing phase " call it start down" for lack of a better term

Twitch

[glcoach]

Tom Watson comes to mind twitch....

He was long back in the day.

[Twitch127]

You mean this Tom Watson

Tom Watson: A Swing For The Ages: Golf Digest

I don't see much early release between shaft and neckbone here

Nor with this guy!

How does this Jamie Sadlowski bomb it?: Golf Digest

I love Mike's stuff but I'm struggling with this one, I do see the forward lean vs pelvic rotation idea though

[Michael Jacobs]

Looks like we have a nice topic of discussion going here. I am writing up the full list of questions and comments and will do the office tip response today

[Michael Jacobs]

I received this email and thought I would share it anonymously. I think it is a great discussion piece:


Email Sent to Mike Jacobs from a person who follows my instruction

Dear Mike,
Just watched your Explosive Golf Show and
MIKE MIKE MIKE WHAT HAVE YOU WROUGHT!!!!
Now, being somewhat analytical too, although it never got me anywhere in golf, just life, you have a lot more to answer. Having just watched the new swing/new ideas video re clubhead moving at a much faster rate than hands (ala Nicklaus's proclamation), and arguing against the idea of an aiming point for hands way up(forward) near or on the ball target line, but rather a low hands point with full club release by right thigh-whew- well, here is very partial list:

1. How does this fit in with low point for the clubhead hitting the ground?
1A. For example, the now outmoded ideas were promulgated by many, particularly TGM aficionados, as a way of preventing fat hits, which were caused in part by an early release, with clubhead passing hands before the hit.

2. How does this early release affect the idea of not letting the clubhead pass the hands, either ever, or late into the follow through?

3. Is the old extreme shaft lean/forward hand position to be discarded by those less proficient in the swing, or be kept for one purpose, like hitting very low shots. Also, how did the clubhead release in the hands forward impact position vs the very obvious release in this new video?

Okay, that's it for now. And thanks, now I don't know what to do this Saturday when I play a really nice course and the importance of this, to me, is the difference between my shooting a 97 vs a 92!



Mike Jacobs Responds

Thanks for the email:
Not all older concepts are outdated they just get refined and updated. It wasn't until 2004-2006 until the Resultant Path and the NEW Ball FLight Laws were unearthed. Modern technology has helped a great deal, computer android models have helped golf research tremendously. Always striving for better!!! Just like the medical world TGM has been antiquated ...

Can you post those questions you have in my forum

I like to answer all questions in 1 spot

Hope all is well

Mike


Response to Mike Jacobs


Hey Mike, as ever you're a good New York standup guy to even take a minute to answer my email. After watching the video again, my blood is boiling over. Not even an oil soaked piece of pizza on wax paper would cool me down right now. Why? Because always being quite strong, more upper body oriented, I fell into the TGM b.s. about everything moving the same rate of speed. Therefore, to see me swing for the past five or six years is to watch a very muscularly controlled, flat, under the plane, non-release swing, resulting in my being exhausted in the mere search of this fiction of effortless golf. My arms never extend away from my body through the hit and into the follow through for fear of "releasing" the club and clubhead, heaven forbid.

So now, after watching your video, and the swing library, and watching Brian M. demonstrating how not to swing in under the plane(very flat, per TGM teachers), I have to on my own figure out how to let things go without my arms contracting and staying bent, and circling low around my body in a muscularly controlled anti release manner. Thanks guys. Let's see, I'm 63, but my mother still lives on her own and reads thousands of pages of books a week and plays jeopardy, so I guess, since she is now 98 years old, I have some time left to try to figure out how to get rid of the completely controlled, non-release swing which allowed me to hit the ball with all muscle, no clubhead speed, leading to fat shots, pulls, and if struck perfectly, a 230 yard muscle drive.

How do I begin?

This is a perfect example of all effort, under the plane, no release, no clubhead speed, bent arm circling around body post impact, ala the results of MY attempts at following the rules of TGM.


Mike Responds

Welcome to a New Age!! Old wrappers of instruction must be let go

[Michael Jacobs]

Part 2 of the show, a follow up to all the questions asked in this thread:


Here ya go!

[Jay Schwarz]

I have found it very useful to watch videos from both you and your friend Brian. The information is quite complimentary. I think Brian had a 'fiddle drill' that really gave me a feeling of solid impact with higher ball flight. It gaive a nice sense of straightening the right arm as the right shoulder moves toward the ball.

In light of the new info you just shared, I wonder if you could think about how that drill might be updated.

Also, for those of us that get the club all the way to parallel at the top, I'm assuming the club needs to start in whatever direction the butt of the club is pointing towards at the top.